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Offline Litro
Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:13 am Post 
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Hm.. what are you expecting ? I think it is impossible to make it. :/ Maybe previous !lp system but without table here, surprise gift - S1. ? :D


Offline Dave
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Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:30 am Post 
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No it's not impossible.. In fact I am almost finished. Not With TrueSkill (too complex and not enough info for PHP at this moment) but with an basic system called ELO. Modified for multiplayer.

It will be OK, relax :D

Problem is that I have weekend too and that gives some problems :lol:


Offline Dave
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Sat Sep 11, 2010 4:38 pm Post 
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Up and running again. I think :roll: :wink:


Offline SaM
Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:12 pm Post 
can you tell us how the new system works?i mean how its calculating the points.
3 hours ago i had 400lp or so and after couple of races it became 371 :o


Offline Si Mclaren
Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:46 pm Post 
another thing, is needed to wait everyone complete the race and 90 seconds to restart the race, why dont allow restart the race or make the counter have less time to we wait?


Offline Dave
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Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:36 am Post 
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I need to finetune the charts, will do that tomorrow. Lets see if that is satisfactory. ( I think not, actually :/ ... Maybe improve the old system instead, don't know yet )

Will explain later.

Si Mclaren wrote:
why dont allow restart the race or make the counter have less time to we wait?

Because when number one finishes there could be a delay before the last one finishes of up to one lap. (90 seconds).

And also its a time to change things, another setup. Go to toilet, discuss an incident. A short break is not bad :wink:

The delay is actually 120 seconds. Or 2 minutes. If you finish first you have the longest pause 8)


Offline Si Mclaren
Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:20 pm Post 
Just a question, why i lost 100 lp in just 1 day?
I won one race, and the others i spectate by crash or flip motives only...
Also, i have more than 500 lp from the leader of ranking, who have +100 lp from the second. How the points are made or lost?


Offline delta s4
Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:55 pm Post 
hello!

I'm new here.
I've just heard about your server in demo, if by any chance i win the championship on the 1st month that i play in your server i will get the voucher?
and how do i claim it? i need create a thread about it, or just reply here?

ty

delta s4


Offline Dave
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Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:38 am Post 
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Yes you can, a post or a new thread is enough yes.

But the month only has 3 days left now, don't think you are going to make that :x :D


Offline delta s4
Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:40 am Post 
i was thinking about next month :D
next month i'll play nonstop, i really want more than demo, but i cant afford it :(

delta s4


Offline zzLV
Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:53 pm Post 
yeey! i'm second! so, how can i get my S1? :honger: :D my licence is ZnoCz ;)


Offline CarbonS
Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:22 am Post 
yeey! i'm first! so, how can i get my S1? :honger: :D my licence is CarbonS :wink:


Offline Dave
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Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:11 pm Post 
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Have fun (f)


Offline zzLV
Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:41 pm Post 
Your voucher code has been accepted and your account has been upgraded to S2 licensed racer (see the "drivers license" in the top-right corner of this website).


thanks a lot! already upgraded to S2 :yes: :thumb:


Offline Dave
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Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:43 pm Post 
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Hmm okay. That's possible :wink:


Offline Si Mclaren
Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:45 pm Post 
CarbonS wrote:
yeey! i'm first! so, how can i get my S1? my licence is CarbonS


Finally the month ended... Now without CarbonS, i gonna win races :woop: :woop: :woop:


Offline Litro
Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:57 pm Post 
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Congratulations to Carbon and ZnoCz ! :thumb: :) They are latvian demo drivers that I called here, cause I knew they are potential winners. Now Carbon is S1 driver, but ZnoCz is already S2(S1>S2 voucher) 8) Now there are many latvian drivers on S0 server. Let's see what they can. :lol:
@Si Mclaren
Go go, you can do it ! :thumb: :)


Offline CarbonS
Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:59 pm Post 
thanks :thumb:


Offline Dave
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Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:03 pm Post 
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Litro wrote:
Now there are many latvian drivers on S0 server. Let's see what they can. :lol:

As long as you don't make the mistake to 'help' by driving for them, it's OK. :wink:


Offline delta s4
Sat Oct 02, 2010 5:31 pm Post 
what happens if i finish 3rd and Carbon and ZnoCz are still 1sta nd 2nd?
i think carbon is affraid that i steal his points, every race he did with me he didnt finish, he always spectated near end of race.


Offline Litro
Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:28 pm Post 
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Carbon is not worried about his points, but maybe he is giving it for another driver. And you should't worry about them, because they are not participating anymore on S1 winning. :wink:


Offline Dave
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Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:30 pm Post 
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Doesn't matter anymore, they are S1 and S2 now so they don't count for the league.

But I will do a system change after this weekend, need to think about it. I don't like that spectating behavior.


Offline delta s4
Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:54 pm Post 
its kind annoying, i'm racing fair, trying to get as many points as i can get and he spectates... thats not fair play
maybe eliminate those with S1 and S2? just an idea


Offline delta s4
Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:56 pm Post 
what happens if hank90 and stera dont race this month?


Offline Si Mclaren
Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:45 pm Post 
delta s4 wrote:
what happens if hank90 and stera dont race this month?

Nice question...


Offline Dave
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Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:35 am Post 
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I will implementing some old code back which gives a penalty for every day you do not race.


Offline delta s4
Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:08 pm Post 
how many points are added to league table if i win a race and everyone else has less points than me?
last night i won some races but those didnt count...
how many points go i get if i finish 1st in this example?

1st 600.00, 2nd 547.00, 3rd 200.00, 4th 350.50, 5th 100.25, 6th 250.25


Offline Speedy J
Tue Oct 05, 2010 5:05 pm Post 
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Dude, you need to relax :wink:


Offline delta s4
Tue Oct 05, 2010 5:18 pm Post 
i am relaxed... just want to know some information, if i wasnt isnterested of winning voucher i wouldnt ask anything, just want to understand score system better


Offline Dave
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Tue Oct 05, 2010 5:55 pm Post 
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True, but it makes no sense to explain it if I am changing it anyway. First change, then explain.

And yes I am slow the last days with changes, sorry :oops:


Offline jimftr
Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:41 pm Post 
I might have a shot at this. My lfs name is jimftr. So look out for me. :D


Offline Dave
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Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:51 am Post 
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Good... Lets fix this system. Might seeing some strange values when I'm busy with it. :x


Offline Litro
Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:53 pm Post 
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no updates ?


Offline Joey
Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:31 am Post 
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Litro wrote:
no updates ?


Going for another account ? :lol:


Offline Litro
Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:32 am Post 
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No, but other drivers ask me. :roll:


Offline Dave
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Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:51 pm Post 
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Alright, I recalculated everything from 1st day of the month. You can't loose !lp anymore but it gets harder to gain when you are on top of the list. Amount of races done are in the table now also. The more races you do the chances you have a high score increase but it does not say everything.


Offline delta s4
Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:11 pm Post 
changes look good. yeah, its way harder, i'm only getting 1 to 3 pts per race. how the pts for winning race are calculated? by fast laps? time of race?


Offline Dave
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Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:43 pm Post 
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Ehhhr no.

It's based on ELO's quick calculator.. Here;
http://www.kosteniuk.com/EloCalc/elo.php

But you need the current average ELO of the racers participating, points earned.. Blabla. It's not easy to calculate the 'delta'.

Maybe I display the results per race in the future.

Generally saying; you earn more points if you rank high in a race with a high average ELO and you gain not much if the average ELO is low. Or, if you finish bad, or the average ELO is just extremely low.. You score nothing...

Or even have a negative delta, which I do not count anymore.

(ELO is !lp (league points) ... I just named it different :D )

If some of you don't follow what I'm saying... Just race! :lol: :wink:


Offline delta s4
Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:01 pm Post 
ok... i think this is more complex than i thought, i guess i'll just race and hope for the best :D
but thanks anyway...
sorry to bother you so many times


Offline Dave
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Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:35 am Post 
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:D

No problem.

I did a final recalculation now. I noticed a bug, the race counter only went up if you scored a positive delta. Now the race counter always goes up if you finish a race.

Scores are slightly different now because that counter is part of the process, doesn't matter much, just a bit.


Offline Si Mclaren
Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:51 pm Post 
This is awesome :D
In the old system, i had +700 points from the leader, now it is less?


Offline Dave
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Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:08 am Post 
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Only 13 races, start racing :[


Offline Si Mclaren
Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:39 pm Post 
Another question, at month end the points are reset or they continue as they was in the month end?


Offline Dave
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Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:48 am Post 
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It will be reset, otherwise newcomers won't have any chance.

Btw, you have two accounts?

Si Mclaren
Si mclaren

???

Didn't knew that was possible.

edit: It isn't possible, it's the same account. Did you re-registered/re-installed your LFS?

Your account name is spelled different in replay's and that is very unusual.


Offline Si Mclaren
Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:05 pm Post 
cargame.nl wrote:
Si Mclaren
Si mclaren

???

Didn't knew that was possible.

edit: It isn't possible, it's the same account. Did you re-registered/re-installed your LFS?

Your account name is spelled different in replay's and that is very unusual.


I reinstalled the .exe, and changed name, because my team chief use the sponsor as team name and the sponsor changes a lot... :huh:


Offline Dave
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Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:24 pm Post 
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Oh OK alright, that explains.


Offline sunny
Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:11 pm Post 
yeey! i'm second! so, how can i get my S1? :honger: :D my licence is sunnycz :wink:


Offline Litro
Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:57 pm Post 
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It is not ended yet ! :D One more hour left.


Offline sunny
Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:34 pm Post 
we will see :D


Offline Dave
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Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:45 pm Post 
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15 minutes :wink:


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