Hello,
I must start by saying that cargame.nl is a great system and I am REALLY enjoying it. For the most part, I HATE license systems but cargame is the ONLY exception to that. With that being said, here are my own small critiques:

1)Administration: nl2Dav is doing a wonderful job considering he seems to be the only person with admin status. I can fully understand why he has not made more people admins. All you have to do is look at other licensed servers to see why. People get ban-happy, and it just turns into one huge power-trip, resulting in a bad reputation. However, I think there is a rather simple fix for this, and it is simple: Make some people admins, but REQUIRE them to save/provide a replay for each and every kick/ban. If they kick/ban somebody ONE TIME without a replay provided, then their admin privs are yanked, simple as that, no exceptions. Now, maybe this isnt the best solution, but it is an idea. Eventually the cargame servers are going to HAVE to have additional administration, and I think the time may be coming SOON for this. There are far too many scenarios I have seen where there is someone being disruptive, disrespectful, crashing, or lagging and refusing to spectate (airio doesnt always work for the laggers for some reason).
2)Semi-Endurance days: I am thinking back to the CTRA days when they used to have one day a week set aside for semi-endurance (laps were set to make races last 15-20 minutes on average). These were the BEST days to race in CTRA, because the n00b drivers simply leave the second that they realized they were going to have to race for more than 5 minutes at a time. I would LOVE to see semi-endo at Cargame.nl, and Im sure Im not alone on this.
3)Safety Rating: Now this one may be an Airio issue that needs to be discussed with EQWorry (the airio developer), but im not sure. But the issue is when leaving or entering the pits during a race, if there is race traffic approaching, you cause yellow flags, damaging your safety rating. Many times, you may need to pit to fix damage or replace a flat tire, this is GOOD for the safety of other cars on the track, so it is unfair to recieve negative safety rating in this scenario. Something needs to be done where safety rating is not affected while in pit lane.
4)FASTER CLASSES, GET YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOUR ASSES!: Thats right, I said it. I cant count how many times I have been on lap 6/6, for instance, chasing down the leader of MY CLASS on the last lap, only to have my race ruined by someone in a faster class who is already DONE with their race (on lap 7/6). Whats more, Ive been screamed at by these people to "MIND BLUE FLAG" when in reality, I had no blue flag because again, that person's race was OVER. Im sure I dont need to go into detail about how many problmes this causes....safety rating, loss of potential points, and otherwise GREAT races ruined by an idiot.

Anyway, please keep in mind that this is simply "constructive criticism", not complaining/whining. I love racing at cargame.nl, even AS IS. I just think the things I've mentioned here could greatly improve the racing environment. I hope to see some feedback, thanks guys!
(AW)88Amped

1) There are more people with (semi-) admin rights than you think
4) Good point.

Well, at least you made it to the forums. A little add-on at your third statement: while driving with UFB (maybe even UFR, going to find out these days) at the Blackwood 1 or Aston 3 tracks, the safety rating drops like hell. I saved some races and reviewed, and from my perspective I drove quite decent, but rating dropped like 2-4% per race. Of course, UFB ain't the right car for fast tracks with only a few slow corners, but it's just that I love this Mini...

Oh, and for your second opinion: love that, but my girl-friend already finds me an LFS addict. (Semi-)enduros only make that worse

I believe you, but I sure have never seen anyone other than Dav take admin action, and there have been some really bad situations occur.

**UPDATE**
I spoke with EQWorry regarding the safety rating issue and I learned something very interesting. The safety rating system is basically still under development. As is, safety rating is only a factor when other cars are in your vicinity. Maybe everyone else already knew that, but my assumption has been that it was a factor ANY time you spun, hit the grass, etc. Also, he said because the safety rating system is at the moment very simple, it should be very easy for him to make yellow-flag exceptions for cars in the pit-lane in the next version!!! YAAAAAAYYYYY!!!!



Lock the door, just say no, internet porn rocks, 'nuff said.

I try not to attract too much attention, but I think I banned two or three people last week (and kicked one on top of that).

I know sometimes bad things occur, but I (and others) can't see everything. Just mention it and one of us will have a look. Sometimes without mentioning that (or only in Dutch ), because then all of a sudden people start behaving perfectly

Hmm I can recall at least three occasions in which a different admin than nl2dav has taken action (spectation, watching replay, once on even your suggestion if i remember right, and ban a racer) last week... but maybe you weren't online then.

But I think, hope I don't speak before my turn nl2dav , that the strict admin actions you might be used to from, for example, the IHR server, don't (just yet) apply on the cargame server. At least not a ban for someone who one time neglects blue flagg in favour of an admin

As the number of racers on the server is growing, it means that everybody (me too) must get used to this environment. Plus the fact that there are not always admins online and if there is one or two, most of the time they (want to) race themselves. So at this moment, not everything is always observed by independants.

My suggestion: don't be too strict (lots of accidents are in fact accidental, there are a lot of inexperienced racers...) and inform on this forum about issues you think are worthwhile informing about, and I am sure action will be taken if found necessary. Saving and sharing replays would be handy.

Just my two cents

Great that you share your thoughts by the way, as you are quite experienced!

Maybe Dave can switch on the possibility to add attachments to posts here..?

Trust me, IHR-style adminning is the LAST thing I want to see. In fact, I think you are right in that most of the time a word or two to someone is better than anything else. I sure was not aware that there were any other admins in cargame. I guess I just have not been around when they have had to act, but on the contrary there have been times when I have been completely disgusted with the actions of some people on there, and there was no1 around to handle it. Usually these are situations where someone is lagging so bad that they're impossible to race around, and they refuse to spectate or leave, or there is someone just causing overall disruption in the server. Its infuriating to sit there and watch someone abuse such a great server, and know that nothing can be done about it. *Case in point, there is this guy with the screen name of "Maverick" that insists on popping into the server just to spew a couple of profane sentences at people and then leave (never races). Not sure of his username but I think I have a replay.

Over all the cargame server has the best racing and most respectful crowd that I have experienced in LFS, aside from the glory-days of AW. Problems are rare, and thats why I race there. I am actually considering donating one of AW's old servers to be an Open Wheel cargame server, since most of my members have moved on to other sims and/or IHR anyway.

If it helps, a dedicated cargame-racer is born . If not, there is always the ban-possibility.



I am sure that this guy will have the attention needed next time he pops in.



That is nice to say!

Maybe, but not for that reason. The server stored all MPR's already from the beginning. The last six are downloadable now from the front page but I soon make it searchable and better linkable. A LOT is possible with all the data collected already and I like to be data mining this treasure and present it to all in a nice way.

If I have time left to pay attention to it... I'm not a die hard racer as most of you know, more a server manager and programmer so that is an advantage.

I'm aware of the fact of ban-trigger happy persons so I currently only have given almost full admin rights to Sandeman which I know for quite some years now and moderates another bulletin board which I am very familiar with. BMW-gek, Speedy J and -Joske- currently have limited rights and are allowed to ban people for 12h max. from the server. If someone needs a longer ban than those 12 hours I or Sandeman could take a look at the MPR / person in question.

About the CTRA thing. I had to research history for it a few weeks ago, I'm always interested in how things develop and.. sadly... can crash....

But anything similar to CTRA will not likely be developed in the near future. That system grew over the years and is impossible to replace in just a few weeks. It was/is not a goal anyway, it finally collapsed because of a nervous breakdown by the creator of it and I will not allow that to happen. If things go wrong on a server, if people start a war with each other, then so be it.

I don't want a game to rule my life, might suggest you all make the same approach, for all who is reading this.

(not a whole lot, I specially somewhat hided this forum for the moment)

You are 100% correct about CTRA, I was just talking about the semi-endurance day in my suggestion, I think there are a lot of people who would really like to see that. Keep up the good work, you're doing a great job so far.

i agree with the safety rating issue it also unfairly punishes you for people crashing in to you which is annoying

first off topic "Je moet wel een stuk tekst selecteren om te citeren! (4)" i get this when i press those reply with the quote.. whatever it means



is this really true?!?!
if i crash dead to a wall with no one around my safety wont go down? i seriously doubt that.. can someone confirm this?



edit: i wanted to suggest something too..
the biggest problem i had from the beginning was that i had a fxo or rb4 to choose, and so could everyone else.
it was fine for me back then but to be honest, as i got better and more careful i found it to be a mistake.. for example..
on many tracks most of the drivers take fxo cos of better handling even up to class 4 rank.. but every noob that started lfs 2 days ago (like i did on the beginning) can take fxo or rb4 too and then god help us all on the first corner (same story every race), maybe you could set a exp. limit for class 2 like 100 points at least.. or 200 exp. to be able to take class 2 cars
if ur so fresh to lfs u should take a first step with the slowest class and maybe even start from the back.. i really think this wud help in reducing first corner crashes

Learn your languages man!
Translation: You need to select a piece of text to quote! (4)

Copy pasted from another (Dutch duh) forum


I'm quite sure it indeed works like this.

can't we make it in english? or if not, can we put a link to google translate at least

No, we can't

Only Dave can. Knowing him it will be changed very soon or not at all.

And I'm absolutely sure

With no other cars around you don't create a yellow flag situation.

BUT, if you went off track your safety drops, beccaauuseeee... You went off track



Eeeehhh yeah, possible... But why can't you all learn Dutch? For a change?

Verry good idea.

Im all for that

well.. hmm share some of ur goods, im sure ima start talkin dutchie in seconds