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Author:  sermilan [ Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Help: black screen for a second
This happens whenever I play a video or start LFS or shift from windowed mode to full screen and vice versa.

I googled a bit, and a guy had a similar problem which was solved by running "xdg-screensaver suspend $WINDOWID" on "Konsole".... now, I don't know what the hell is Konsole apart from being some kind of program that you don't just download and install, but you build it :huh: , which I am oblivious to :roll:

I suspect it's some kind of hidden screen saver bug or something and if anyone of you computer geeks knows how to solve the problem I would be happy to let you pass me on the track safely (f)
Author:  Nick7 [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:22 am ]
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This is related to Linux.
I guess you're using Windows, right?
Author:  Frozeni [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:25 am ]
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Just quessing, but if it is a screensaver problem, have you tried to disable/change it?
Author:  sermilan [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:31 am ]
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@Nick7 - yes, I'm using Win XP
@Frozeni - I disabled it, also disabled monitor power off at any time

Graphic card is 8400GS and I'm using the latest driver
Author:  Nick7 [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:20 am ]
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Install Windows 7 8)
Author:  sermilan [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:30 am ]
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Well, comp isn't that great:
Athlon 4600+ 64 Dual core
RAM 2Gb 667MHz
graphic card as stated above

Do you think it would work well / better than on XP?
Author:  Litro [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:42 am ]
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No, dont try 7. XP da best. Dont try windows7, bad experience for me.
Author:  Nick7 [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:57 am ]
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Tbh, Win7 is really good OS.
Will work completely fine on that spec, and you'll have less gfx issues under Win7.
Performance-wise quite similar.
Install on different partition to try ;)
Author:  Dave [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 2:07 pm ]
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sermilan wrote:
Do you think it would work well / better

Better, yes.

When somebody is talking about XP I get the feeling we go back 10 years in time :fp:
Author:  sermilan [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 2:18 pm ]
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Easy for you to say :P

On topic: so you think my current configuration will support Win7 well?
I wanna be absolutely sure about this, since it's going to take a whole day to reinstall it and set everything right.
Author:  Dave [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 3:12 pm ]
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Yes.

And why is it easy for me to say?
Author:  sermilan [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 3:56 pm ]
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Because of the difference of living standards in our two countries.

And tnx for the advice, I will install Win7 when I get some time to do that (f)
Author:  Dave [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:09 pm ]
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I think it has nothing to do with living standards, I had Win7 happily running on a 'slower' laptop then your current system. It's just laziness and/or fear of the unknown. Windows 7 is comparable with XP only a whole lot more stable. It uses a tad more diskspace but thats about it. XP gets status end of life next year anyway.
Author:  Litro [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:39 pm ]
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XP is ok. Windows 7 fucked up everything for me :D
Author:  Nick7 [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:56 pm ]
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Since I installed Win7 - which is... since available, I never had a BSOD.
Works great. It *is* quite better then XP.
Author:  initial D AE86 [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 6:09 pm ]
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Nick7 wrote:
It *is* quite better then XP.

:yes: over a year ago, I went from XP directly to 7 and big improvement 8)
Author:  sermilan [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 6:27 pm ]
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Dave wrote:
I think it has nothing to do with living standards, I had Win7 happily running on a 'slower' laptop then your current system. It's just laziness and/or fear of the unknown.

My current system is actually an upgrade from a week a go. Before that I had Athlon 2600, 1GB RAM 333MHz and Geforce 6600 :wink: . I asked some people who are in computers more than me and they didn't suggest switching to Win7 on that configuration.

That's why I asked repeatedly here for confirmation whether it's safe to try Win7 on this one.
Author:  Nick7 [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:47 pm ]
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It's safe.
Author:  sermilan [ Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:12 am ]
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Tnx, Nick! :)

Which version of Win7 should I chose? I've got 64bit processor, so should I go for that one?
Should I go for Pro versions, ultimate or just simple home edition? I plan to use it for home purposes, so it's mostly internet, videos, games, no graphic design or any other demanding programs. I want to make it as simple as possible, but effective for these activities, so would home edition do the job?

@Litro: sorry, but I'm gonna give it a go :P
Author:  Litro [ Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:55 am ]
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Oke your risk :D
Author:  Dave [ Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:01 am ]
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sermilan wrote:
I've got 64bit processor, so should I go for that one?

Yes. It's not really about the processor. 32 bit OS can only address 4 Gb RAM max (videocard RAM included) which is nothing these days.

4 Gb (-video memory) is recommended. Browsers eat a lot of memory nowadays with these tab features.

sermilan wrote:
Should I go for Pro versions, ultimate or just simple home edition?

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/wind ... e#T1=tab15
Author:  Nick7 [ Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:46 pm ]
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If you do not plan to upgrade your RAM, choose 32-bit, as it will use slightly less RAM.
If you plan to upgrade to 4GB RAM (or more), then use 64-bit version.

As for basic differences between versions, Dave posted link ;)
There are features that are not needed tho.. generally, Professional is best for most.
Ultimate has few more features, but most are not needed.
Author:  sermilan [ Sun Apr 07, 2013 8:01 pm ]
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Tnx guys, will give it a go when I get some spare time, it will be home or pro 32, as I'm not planing on upgrading RAM for the moment (f)
Author:  sermilan [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:04 am ]
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Installed Win7.... but it didn't solve the problem, it helped a bit though. Now it doesn't go black for 1-2 seconds, but for like 0,5 sec only. I'm confused :huh:
It's not that I can't live with this problem, but still...

Btw, I don't see such a big improvement between Win XP and Win7 (bare in mind though that I'm only a PC user, not a PC pro). Might be because it's only 32-bit edition?
Author:  Frozeni [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:42 am ]
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Shame :/

Do the black screens happen always with the same time limit or randomly?

And if you play some other video game, do the black screens appear there too?
Author:  Dave [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:14 pm ]
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sermilan wrote:
don't see such a big improvement


sermilan wrote:
Might be because it's only 32-bit edition?

No 32 or 64 is basically only to circumstance the 4 Gb (RAM + video RAM) limit. Actually I do not understand why there need to be a 32 bit Win7 edition, people only decide to do stupid things this way :D

The big difference is not the speed but it's the stability and support.
Author:  sermilan [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:50 pm ]
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Frozeni wrote:
Do the black screens happen always with the same time limit or randomly?

And if you play some other video game, do the black screens appear there too?

I'd say same time limit, shorter though than on Win XP.
I don't play any other video games. It used to happen when I load the video on a video player, but I just checked and it doesn't anymore :) . I updated Windows in the meantime and the black screen problem while loading video is gone now.

Dave wrote:
Actually I do not understand why there need to be a 32 bit Win7 edition, people only decide to do stupid things this way :D

Well, as for me, I listened to Nick's advice, because I only have 2Gb RAM.


Dave wrote:
The big difference is not the speed but it's the stability and support.

Tnx for explanations. It seams to run quite happily on my comp, no bottlenecks so far :)
Author:  Frozeni [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:36 pm ]
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Sounds quite weird still O_o Like you said before it could be something wrong with the screensaver.. You could try playing around with the settings of the screensaver and see if it has any affect to the reqularity of the black screens :/

Other than that, i'm completely lost :huh:
Author:  Dave [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:42 pm ]
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Actually I have the same with LFS. Never made a problem of it. :roll:

I even think its quite normal.
Author:  Frozeni [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:56 pm ]
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The screen goes black every now and then? Brrrr... i can't imagine driving like that :o
Author:  Dave [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:16 pm ]
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sermilan wrote:
or start LFS or shift from windowed mode to full screen and vice versa

:roll:
Author:  sermilan [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:36 pm ]
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Dave wrote:
I even think its quite normal.

I didn't have that issue with my previous graphic card, no blinking just straight to what it was commanded to do. But no big deal really as it is now. Before that it was quite annoying for eyes.

Frozeni wrote:
The screen goes black every now and then? Brrrr... i can't imagine driving like that

No, it's not random... it's just when I go to full screen from windowed mode and the other way around. Other than that, it's fine :wink:
Author:  Litro [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:52 am ]
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LOL :lol: Its normal
Author:  Frozeni [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:03 pm ]
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Ah, red it wrong then :)

Like Litro said its normal :thumb:
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